You are getting on my nerves! Part 1

During the menopause have you ever noticed how many things get on your nerves?  In this honest discussion, Carol, myself and new lady Maria chat about all things that really get us going!  Anything from eating noises to people being rude and then we digress to conditions like tinnitus.  During the menopause tissues surrounding the ear change, due to lack of oestrogen and generally this is why noise sensitivity happens.  Misophonia is a condition where noises are very heightened, causing some panic attacks when hearing these particular sounds.  In menopause this is very common and can cause women some anxiety. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:15

Welcome to Menopause Dinners. My name is Sarah and I'm your host. Not only is it me, but I have some incredible guests with me today. You can expect real stories, laughter, a few things, and some facts to help you feel not alone in this ship storm called the Menopause. So sit tight and let's ride this storm together. Welcome to Menopause Dinners. Hello, hello. Welcome to Manipules Dinners. I hope you're all doing very well today. So we have got a really good show for you today. I've actually got some new guests which I'm really excited about. But before we do anything, I'm just going to tell you about what we're talking about today.

SPEAKER_02 1:09

Our subject is You are getting on my nerves.

SPEAKER_03 1:17

Okay, yeah, that's gonna be a good one actually. I think it might go on for a few hours. So um I'm gonna introduce who we've got with us today. So first of all, let me welcome a brand new menopause, ladies. Maria Maria. Lovely. So we've got two ladies here. We are excited to tell everyone how things are really getting on our nerves. But I think what we'll do is we'll give you a sneaky peek. We'll do a little quiz for 20 seconds. And in that 20 seconds, ladies, let's just say what's getting on our nerves. One-word answers. You ready? Are you ready? 20 seconds start now. Ruthness.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Time.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Eating. People talking out loud on their mobile phones on the train. 10 seconds for me. Breathing. Doctor Surgery receptionists.

SPEAKER_00 2:15

Oh Doctor Surgery Receptionist. They get on my nerves.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Oh my god. Oh my god. Time's up.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

I think we're gonna be here. Sorry to all the receptionists.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

I think we're gonna be here all night. Okay, so I think it's only fair that because we have a new lady that we get to know Maria a little bit. Uh, because you've met me before and you've met Carol. Um, but before we come to Maria, um, as you know, my name's Sarah. I am post-menopause at three years. Carol, where are you?

SPEAKER_00 2:47

I'm still in the thick of it.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

You're still in the thick of it. You're always in the thick of it. Maria, tell us a bit about yourself. Where are you in your menopause? I have absolutely no idea.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Oh, okay. Um, I think I started pretty young. Um, I've been on HRT on and off for years. Um, I think I'm probably nearly through it, but some of the symptoms just don't seem to be going anywhere.

SPEAKER_03 3:13

Right, okay. So we're gonna hear all about that today. Yes. So just a brief uh intro to because obviously we've been this is our second season, so I think people are a bit bored of hearing about our moons. But what kind of symptoms have you been experiencing?

SPEAKER_02 3:28

Brain fog, um the hot and cold, so the night sweats, and my husband, I'm newly married, so my husband has the pleasure of my icicle fingers and toes, as he calls them, and then my volcano body. Oh so I'll go to touch him. Get off, get off! So then I'll go in for a cuddle. Get off, you're too hot. Oh, it's one or the other. Um the anger, the tearfulness. Um, not as bad as it was. Yeah, and the anger's certainly not as bad as it was, but people do still get on my nerves and things get on my nerves. Um yeah, bloating.

SPEAKER_03 4:04

Okay, so quite a few, see quite a few there. And uh, if you don't mind me asking, are you on hormone replacement?

SPEAKER_02 4:11

Yes, I'm on HRT patches and I'm also on vagina oestrogen, which my husband nicely calls a pussy plunger.

SPEAKER_03 4:24

Oh yes, we're only four minutes in and we've had the word, we've had we've had the pussy word mentioned already. I like this, I like this Marilyn. She's coming, she's coming every week. Oh dear, really? Yeah, so he calls it. Yeah, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

And he comes on one of those applicator things that you put the tablet in the top, yeah. And then yeah, and that's it. So here she goes, the pussy plunges out.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Oh, well, you know, he's I well, thank you for sharing that with us. It's a shame, really. You could have come on the vagina one. You would have been great. Maybe not. Yeah, no, not everyone wanted to come on that one, which is why, but we were lucky with Jane on that one. So, ladies, the subject today is actually there's a lot about this on social media. This obviously we did one on Mood Swins already, so this isn't this isn't us like talking about that, maybe a little bit. This is about specific things really getting our goat for no apparent reason. Um so you know, there is stuff like I said on socials, it's making a big thing where women are talking about this or that, and you know, we've said a few things in our quiz. So I want to go with you, Carol. Come on, give me one thing that really gets on gets with you.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

People's tone when they're talking to you and uh and I I'm very sensitive to it now. Um how they speak to you, how they address you, how they even look at you. Because I hate when I'm speaking to somebody and they look away, and uh I'm irritated by the fact that these and I never used to be. I ne I don't even think I took notice, but I'm even more sensitive to people's behaviours directly to me, and so that's why the receptionist at the doctor's surgery gets it because they are rude, and um I don't know, uh it's not just my um doctor's receptionist because it's a general conversation that doctor's receptionists are rude.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

I have to say mine aren't, but my husband's are. Their rudeness, it's their inefficiencies, and I am like a dog with a bone. I'm not confrontational generally, but if something really gets me, I am like a dog with a bone and I won't let it go. Oh wow and I'll go back again and again and again and again.

SPEAKER_03 6:54

But is this since your menopause have you always been like this?

SPEAKER_02 6:58

I've always been a little bit like it, but it's definitely worse.

SPEAKER_03 7:00

Yeah, it's got worse.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:01

Yeah, I've got to jump in on the doctor's surgery actually, because I was a bit I was a bit uh naughty with my because I they kept me waiting forty minutes. And then I went in there and I didn't my bum didn't even sit down and they said to me, I see you've got two things. You can't have two things. I can tell you my two things within three minutes, and if you've kept me waiting forty minutes, you can give me five minutes of your time. So a question for you. Um we've talked about doctors, yeah, and receptionists. Receptionists, um there's actually no, can we talk about receptionists quickly? Because they're not doctors, are they?

SPEAKER_00 7:38

No. No.

SPEAKER_03 7:39

So why are they asking me about my cystitis? Why are they asking everything about it? I don't and I don't feel comfortable telling them that.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Yeah, you know, that's beyond their boundaries, and I think that some doctor surgery, because my doctors were getting out of hand, and um the funny thing is, I don't know if it is because I'm half Rockweiler, but they don't really pursue me in that manner. But one of the stance that I have taken is that I no longer go into the doctor's surgery. You know, they created these portals after when we was in um COVID. So you sent your request and everything else. That's what I do. I send everything through that portal and I get response within hours. I don't have to worry about an appointment with the doctor or anything like that. So I just use and I use it for the children as well to avoid getting into a confrontation.

SPEAKER_03 8:33

Yeah, because they I don't know what it is about one of my friends who is also menopausal.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

Yeah, she had with her doctor surgery, you know how they've got these rules where you either book online or you phone, you can't go in in person. Well, she went in on her way to work at the exact time they said, No, we can't do it in person, you have to phone. So she stood in the surgery and phoned, and they I've done that. And in the end, they said to her, You need to leave. And she said, Well, you're gonna have to get the police to come and remove me because I am not going. I need an appointment.

SPEAKER_03 9:04

Oh, it's so bad. It's so bad. So, okay, if we're talking about things like that, but is there anything specific? So I'll give you a hint. So if someone was to eat anything next to me, I that would really, I can't listen to someone eating. No, that doesn't bother me, but it does my daughter. Really? Yeah, it's a thing. Is yes, it is a thing. I can't, my I can't, I have to like certain people, I'm not gonna mention any names, or certain people the way that they eat, I I really can't take it. I have to like either leave the room, put the volume up, all I can hear is their jaw. I can't hear anything that's on the TV. I can't hear, I can't hear anything. All I can hear is their jaw grinding. And it's and it's to the point where I I'm like, I have to leave the room. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. Only certain people God, gonna get in trouble for this, but but yeah, if you what about you? You said your daughter.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Yeah, um, not her eating, she's got the thing where she can't sit next to anyone eating, and you can see her face change. Oh wow, it doesn't really bother me.

SPEAKER_03 10:19

Oh, really? Carol, back me up here. No, no, it doesn't bother you. I'm I on my own.

SPEAKER_00 10:24

But Carl, I called his name. Oh I can't stand seeing him eat. He doesn't chew, he woofs.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Ah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

I can't stand that. He's not chewing, he's just woofing the food down, and I'm there, and I say to him, Go in the kitchen and eat. And he says, No, I want to watch TV. And I said to him, But son, I'm finding it really irritating because you're not chewing your food. Yeah, and he said to me, But mum, that's how I was been for the last 18 years. And I said, Yes, son, but there's time for change now. Oh my god. But you know what? I can't stand as well. Smells. I've really become sensitive to smells.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

We had on the Fibre Myology one about smells. Kirsty is uh, she's bad with food when they're cooking, and one of the other ladies said the same thing, she's like literally gagging. What what smell is it? Is it a particular one?

SPEAKER_00 11:23

My daughter, she comes in late, and so she cooks. And when I say to you, the smell is repulsive to me. Yesterday I had to say to her, you're gonna either have to buy food in, cook it in the morning, or find somewhere else to live. Because it's that's how intolerable it has become to me. What was she cooking? God knows, but I've really become highly sensitive to food and smells. Yeah, yeah. So that's why candles, everything, I'm burning everything. Like I think the house smells.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

Oh it sounds like an exorcism in your house. Oh, and you're okay. Yeah, yeah, that does. Oh, well, you know, they're like, what about breathing? Someone breathing.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

No, snoring, snoring? No, now my husband does snore. Does he? But again, you know, I think we're still in this bubble because when my head hits the pillow, I fall asleep. So if I'm asleep before him, he doesn't wake me up. But if there's anyone downstairs, they can hear him through the Oh my god, really?

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Yeah. He did warn me when I first met him. He said he was bad. Yeah. Did you know how bad he was? No. Is he bad?

SPEAKER_02 12:34

I don't think so, but other people do.

SPEAKER_03 12:36

Oh, well, if you can hear him downstairs, then it must must be bad. Yeah. It's that's when they get it stuck.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

He was in hospital a couple of weeks ago, and I was sitting by the bed uh doing a crossword or something, and the bloke in the next bed, we had the curtain pulled and he was asleep. And the bloke in the next bed said, Oh, for fuck's sake, she's an half swear, didn't she? Not swear, sorry, snore. Really?

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Not blue. It's bad, it is. I mean, yeah. I'm my dog snores, but that's fine. But yeah, I don't mind that. It's cute, right? But when you sleep with someone that snores, or it's like I okay, so when I when I go to sleep, when I hit my head on the pillow, I I think this is definitely menopause thing. I can sleep for about 10 minutes and then I can wake up very, very quickly, suddenly. Um, if someone comes into the room and obviously someone mainly my not not a stranger, just making that clear, comes in and sits down, it disturbs me and I can't get back to sleep. And then I then I know that the snoring's come in and I'm listening for the snoring, and then it starts, and then it's a nudge, and then it's a kick, and then I mean, years ago, I used to have this technique, but it's it's it's long gone now. I used to kick him and he used to wake up and I'd be like, What, what, what's wrong? What's wrong? Are you okay? But it was me. You can try that one, you can try that one, but it's it's past its time now. We've been together like a long time, over 20 years. So he's he knows my little ways now. Yeah, yeah, not good. But there's something called misphonia. Have you heard about that?

SPEAKER_04 14:29

No, no.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

I was looking into this, I thought, I because like I said, there's a lot of women that are talking about things like breathing, uh, teeth, you know, all those kind of things, uh, winding them up. What's the uh other things as well? Oh, yeah, it's an extreme emotional reaction to sounds, it's a thing, it's actually a condition, and it gets worse in the menopause. And all because of estrogen. Because what estrogen does, it helps the blood flow in the ear. So everything becomes sense sensitive. Okay, yeah, so it is it's a big thing, and a lot of people, it kind of sounds I thought, is it like when someone's autistic? Because sometimes yeah, you see these programs and they've got their headphones on because they can't like, but it's it's it's not, it's it's slightly different. Um, but yeah, so it is a thing about so you can use it as an excuse.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Be quiet.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

Yeah, be quiet. I've got misphonia. Don't breathe. Um so yeah, that's what it is to do with the tissues in the in the ear, the hair cells.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

What about sleep? Because I'm really struggling with sleep. And I know that people say, all right, then insomnia and everything else, but I don't think it's that. I do think it's something around my menopause because I'm still awake at three, four o'clock in the morning. I go through phases. And I haven't had a nap or anything throughout the day. Uh but I can go to sleep when I after three, four o'clock, I will go to sleep. But I will get up at 10 o'clock, eight o'clock, and be bouncing. Yeah, I'm awake, I'm alive, and everything else. But I'm thinking to myself, how much longer? Because um it's not normal, but I don't feel exhausted or anything like that before I go to bed and even when I wake up. But I do think it's down to my menopause. I do not think it's sleep at night.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Mine is more, I'll wake up. I go through phases. Some nights I sleep for a period of time, I'll sleep solidly. And then like this morning, I was awake at three o'clock and just dozed on and off until the alarm went off. But I will wake up in the middle of the night and have these anxiety attacks where I'm worrying about things that wouldn't worry me during the day. Right. So it can be something I said to someone when I was 15. Yeah. You know, and it suddenly comes back to me. Did I upset them? Did I hurt their feelings? Or if I've done something at work, that that's a big thing for me. When I was younger, I could leave work at 5:30, walk out the door and forget about it. Now it plays on my mind, and I go over it and over it and ruminate over and over thinking.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

And catastrophising everything. See, I couldn't sleep Friday night, but that's because I saw Weather in Heights. Was it good? And I went with my friend. It was it was really good, but I kept thinking about him all night. And I couldn't sleep, and then I got this Kate Bush son, you know, I'm not even gonna see it. That was in my head all night. I got about an hour's sleep. That is really I'm really irritating. But no, it's very common for women to not with the sleep. Very common, Carol. You're not alone in the sleep club. A lot of women, so like sometimes, like what I said, you can fall asleep, and then all of a sudden something will shock you, and then you'll wake up and then you won't be able to get back to sleep, or you'll get disturbed. Some women wake up at one o'clock, three o'clock. Yeah, it's always the same time. Yeah, and from a Chinese medicine point of view, I'm gonna throw that in because the Chinese clock that's to do uh with the the liver and the lung, which are all very, very linked with menopause. Okay, so it's very, very common to wake up at those times. So you kind of just you know, with that, when I um I talk to patients, I always say to them, if you've got a sleep problem, first of all, never look at your clock when you wake up. Because if you wake up your clock, if you're looking at it, first of all, you're already setting your brain. Yeah, don't put the light on because that starts ticking the serotonin in your head, in your brain, so you start to uh change your carcadian rhythm, so you start to wake up. So you need to feel your way around and try not to trip over anything, um, and don't change the time that you like try and get a regular sleep pattern, don't eat anything sugary or alcohol on the lead up to bed. Have your last meal to be semi-carb because that will help you sleep as well. So, yeah, it's a few things that you could try definitely.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

You know what I did last night?

SPEAKER_03 19:23

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

I put a clock near my bed so that when I get up, it it brightens up the room. But I'm gonna put back the other clock now that you've said that, but it doesn't do anything. Yeah, because I do know it I'm looking at the clock.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Yeah, I do. First thing I do.

SPEAKER_00 19:43

The mind's just running with the clock.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

I don't turn the lights on.

SPEAKER_00 19:46

No, I don't turn the lights on.

SPEAKER_03 19:47

But you look at the clock. Yeah. Yeah, don't look at the clock. Don't look at it at all. Even if you think it's like five minutes before your alarm's going off, that's it. You're and then in your head, you're gonna start thinking about the time.

SPEAKER_02 20:02

There's no point in me going back to sleep now because I've got to be up. Or oh come on, go back to sleep, please go back to sleep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Yeah. No, don't look, don't look at that clock. Um, what about your ears? So there's women that get things like so. I know we're talking about kind of this misphonia a little bit, I suppose. Um, some women get sensitive ears. Um, tinnitus. I know that I when I do my cooking or my baking, I have to put headphones on. I can't my ears can't take the blender. Oh no. No? Have you not experienced that? Really sensitive really sensitive. Yeah, it hurts. That's that's like being the last maybe four years. No, that sort of thing. Okay, so I'm on my own then. What about tinnitus? No. No? No. Oh, someone's just put their hand up, put their hand up and said, I've got I got tinnitus.

SPEAKER_01 21:02

Yes, hello, my name's Charmaine. And um yeah, probably in the last four months I've noticed on and off I started getting tinnitus. Um I don't really know what's caused it. It just comes out of nowhere. And then sometimes it'll be I'll have it where it's a low buzz, and other times it's like a high buzz, where you've got sort of it's almost like a it's hard to describe it really, but it's it's like a whooshing sound, like the old TVs used to make. Like a short.

SPEAKER_03 21:37

It goes in with a sort of noise. Like that, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Sometimes it just tends to go shh. It's like just a strange disturbed sort of noise anyway.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

So you can hear like a whoosh.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Yeah, it's not so much of a whoosh, it's more of a shh sort of noise. Um and it's quite it's quite annoying because you sort of you'll be in front of the TV and suddenly It'll come on.

unknown 22:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

And I keep thinking it's related to the TV. But it actually isn't because it does happen outside of the home as well. So it's not just when I'm in, you know, near the TV and stuff. And it is very annoying.

SPEAKER_03 22:14

And have you had that? So is that is that a menopause thing?

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Um I'm not sure. I I I went to the doctors about it and the doctor gave me um a nasal nasal spray, which is supposed to balance the the tubes that go from your nose to your ears.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Um but to be honest, I've I've personally I found it it didn't help much. In fact, it probably made it worse. Bloody doctors made it worse for a while, and so yeah, I just stopped doing stopped using it.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

Because there's different types of tennitus, so my husband's got it constantly, like someone's drilling his head, and then there's some and they go like that, they go in one ear, and like a whoosh. And then there's others which are like sound like water.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Um but yours is not all the time. It's not all the time.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Is there a particular four or five days? Um is it constant? Yeah. So you can hear it now. Um there's surround because I'm in a place where there's noises around me, I can't actually hear it. Right. But as soon as, say, I'd get in the car and shut the door and it's quiet, I can hear it. So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Because they do say that, don't they? That you have to have noise around you to to you to um drown out the tinnitus that you've got. Yeah, my sister's that's God, I shouldn't really talk about it, but I am going to. She's just started tinnitus now. She's a few years older than me. Yeah. She's just started to get it quite uncomfortable for her. Metapoles is anxiety. Yeah. It's not nice, is it? Because you can't mask it.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

No.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

You can't get it's not like you can take medication to get rid of it. It's it's there. Um, yeah, not not good, but thanks for for that. So but it is definitely quite common in menopause to have that tinnitus. And again, it's to do with you know, the oestrogen and the blood in the ear and the tissues, the change in the tissues. But yeah, some people can get it because they just, you know, are near heavy equipment, loud equipment all the time. But you know, so that's quite uncomfortable. Yeah, and and the thing is with tinnitus is that so if I just take my husband, for example, I he doesn't say anything about it, and I forget to ask him because he doesn't moan about it, but I know he's got it. So he could be sitting there and he could have this loud drilling sensation in his head, and I won't know because I can't hear it. And that's quite sad, I think, for someone that's got it, because unless you got like a little light LED coming on when you've got it, no one will know.

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Yeah, it's very true.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Yeah, it's very lonely then. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's quite sad really. But it's it's very common. Very common. Um but again, you know, some people get tinnitus and they get the vertigo uh combined. So um, so yes. So what kind of things, other things are we talking about? We've got like so the eating, the talking, people talking, you said you said about when I'm on the train and people are on their phones talking loudly.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to hear your conversation. I want to get on a train and put my head in my book or shut my eyes and just absorb myself in what I'm reading. That's all I want to do. I don't want to hear somebody else's stories.

SPEAKER_03 26:07

Yeah, it's not nice, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 26:08

Blabbering. Go to Japan, no talking on trains.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yes, yes, I've heard that. That's the way it should be. And smells on trains. Yeah, I said smells don't bother me, but sometimes smells on trains do. Yes, because I'm short. And if you're standing under someone who's tall and you've got your head in their armpit.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

Oh, it's not nice, is it? There's some dirty buggers on the trail, in there. Yeah. I saw this guy once, he had a real stinking cold. Oh, it was vile. He was just using newspaper to wipe his nose with, and I just got a packet of tissues and I went, Do you want to take those? But I didn't and I just thought, because it's going everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 26:47

Everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 26:47

And I just thought, you're just, I mean, no doubt it's going gone everywhere already, but he was just like using newspaper, and I was like, Oh, you're foul. You know what else gets someone?

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Yeah, go on. People putting their makeup up on on the train.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

Oh that's become a thing now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:05

When did that become a thing? Why? Why can't you get ready at home?

SPEAKER_00 27:10

And pajama wearing.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Oh, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Pet hate.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

What was that, sorry?

SPEAKER_00 27:15

When I see women wearing their pyjamas out on the street. And they're rollers. And I don't just let them walk past. I do the look, I follow them up the road. Because I want them to know that I am offended by it. I don't leave it alone.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

Listen, where we used to live before we moved, I'm not, when I tell you this, I am not joking. We saw a girl once who had Imak on her moustache, and she was walking up the high road and hair and curlers. And I just thought, you really think you're cool? But actually, that just says one word to me, and I think Bell end. You know, you're walking around with this big white thing under a under a nose, and I'm just thinking, who does that? Go do it in the bathroom. I don't want to see you do your do your little what they call caterpillar, innit?

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Yeah. But I noticed that men are coming out in their pajamas bottoms as well. Are they? That's becoming a thing slowly.

SPEAKER_03 28:17

Are they lazy gits, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Oh, we're gonna have to do something about that.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

What are you gonna do, Carol?

SPEAKER_00 28:22

We're gonna have to put something out to show them that it's not acceptable.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

But is this okay, is this a menopause in or we just moaning now? We're moaning. We've just really moaning. I just want to say to everyone, you might find this informative, you might not. I don't know. But sm uh smells get me cut, oh my god, coleslaw. Um I love coleslaw. Oh no. If you came in my house and you bought coleslaw, you would get chucked out. Or if if it was in my fridge, it would have to go. It makes me want to vomit. Because it looks like vomit. No, it doesn't. See, they but for me, it's it's a real trigger, and I get really anxious if it's there. Real it turns into a bit of a um a problem for me. Really don't like it. Uh no, I haven't had trauma with it as a child. I'm just making that very clear. I wasn't like put in a room with coleslaw or something, but it's uh is there something about that smell just makes me want to vomit? And it's got worse um as I've got older. The same with wine, red wine, I can't stand that smell. Oh, I love it. Do you know no, it's the smell, it just makes me, I don't know. It's funny, certain smells, isn't it? You get heightened. That's the other thing, because a lot of people with this theme, misphonia, they get yeah, they get real panic attacks. I've not had a panic attack over like a smell. No, no. You know, I haven't had that, or the snoring or or the breathing, or the eating. Nightmare, don't I? But um, yeah, no, it's it's hard, isn't it? Sometimes these smells they're just really heightened.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

One thing, I mean this isn't smells, but people doing things that get on your nerves. We were going to bed one night and he opened the wardrobe door to get something out and then left it open. Oh. Yeah. And got the glare. But he knew what he was doing. Did he? Yeah. So he did it on purpose. Yeah, but I was gonna shut the door. You're not getting into bed until you shut that door.

SPEAKER_00 30:40

The mere felt like you have been half the tear here.

SPEAKER_03 30:43

Yeah, just annoyed you now. It's just the eyes, isn't it? It's just the glare. So it's just a Darth Vader. Darth Vader stare. Okay, ladies. Have you got anything else for our moan trip today? But okay, but let's just we are talking really about things in a menopause that are quite heightened. So we've got tinnitus, which um one of our ladies talked about. So we'll cover that a bit more in part two. Obviously, we talked about being around other people, it can make you a bit uncomfortable with what they're doing, whether they're eating, chewing, not chewing, you know, not and what they're making, not making it properly, or not shutting the cupboard door. God, we sound like a right bunch, don't we? Um, so we are gonna wrap up. It's a nice light one today because it's been quite quite informative lately. So um, Carol, if anyone wants to be a guest, God forbid, on here. Is there is there any requirement apart from just moaning?

SPEAKER_00 31:48

Well, anybody wants to be a guest, you don't have to have any experience whatsoever. You need to be honest, able, and trustworthy with your conversation. And if you want to come on board, email menopause dinner at gmail.com or the platform that you're currently on. You can also send a message from that platform.

SPEAKER_03 32:12

Oh, well done. That was very nicely said. Thank you very, very much. So I just want to say thank you to our guests today. So thank you to Maria and Carol and our audience members, all my name is um, so yeah, so that is it for part one. I'm just gonna let you know what's coming up in part two. As Menopause Dinners is about food. We have some food coming up, and the guests are gonna score what I've made, and you'll learn all about that when we come back. We're also gonna be carrying on with our little moan fest, and we're gonna be talking about what you can do if you're someone that suffers from tinnitus or you know, someone just eating around you or someone just annoying you. There are some tricks that you can do to help you a little bit more, and who knows, we may talk about other things as we've been digressing a bit today. So I just want to say remember to like, rate, and subscribe if wherever you are listening from to let us know we're doing a good job. There is now a monetization button as we are non-profit, so every little bit helps. So before you go, a final thought for you. Menipo sucks, but with friends, it sucks a whole lot less. We will see you next time on menopause dinner. Bye-bye. We'd like to thank Mother Sports Inger for providing space to record. Information we have on further documentation is from our own experiences, and if you are suffering from any medical condition, please get medical advice before trying anything else.